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The Pioneer Anomaly
The Pioneer Anomaly effect is an excellent opportunity to empirically check the true relativistic mass gain of long journeys into deep space.
For long journeys into deep space, such as the Pioneer 10 and 11 rocket journeys, scientists will have to take the gain in mass, due to the force of the rocket engines and Jupiters gravity attraction, during their accelerations, into their calculations, in order to have a more accurate picture of the Pioneers'journey.
A slight tweeking of the relativistic effects on the spacecraft's motion may eliminate the anomaly altogether and give better paradigm for future long distant space journeys. The data from the two journeys that has been learned is a good opportunity to find a more accurate value for C2 which may be much different then the theoretical value presently used. For future journeys into deep space, scientists should include, the new corrected inertial mass, (and therefore gravitational attraction) caused by the force of the rocket engines and Jupiter's gravity, during its acceleration, into their calculations.
I explain this - inertial mass gain - in my book - "The Mind of Mankind" as the "space energy level" of a body. The Pioneer Anomaly effect is an excellent opportunity to empirically check the true relativistic mass gain of long journeys into deep space.
I hope this helps solve the mystery of the "anomaly" of the Pioneer 10 and 11 space journeys.
For further reading see: http://novan.com/pioneer-anomaly2.htm
Don Hamilton
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The Pioneer Anomaly Solved
The Pioneer Anomaly Solved
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Bjarne
Why we need Pioneer Anomaly?
Disassembling-galaxies and http://truthmost.com are enough to kill mainstream gravity!
To understand the math behind the software, college math is enough!! If you have no math backgroud (e.g., you are under 5 yrs old), that is OK and you can understand the software by simply playing with it!
No more game, tidy professors! The website is public and you are no where to hide!
Galileo complex in full bloom brings a buzzilion gadflies
Let's see....
Don states the following:
Adjusting the value of c is not new physics, when the unadjusted value of c as measured fits a wide range of physical observations from the subatomic to the cosmic scale? Who knew?
Don also states:
Don continues to believe in absolute motion in spite of the success of the theory of relativity in all observations to date. How brilliant his "Mind of Man" must be. Too bad its neurons are in a state of absolute rest!
His whole blog exemplifies the Galaileo complex. What a juicy, pompous target he is. I've brought my whole family to feast.
This bite of realism brought to you by "Gadfly."
Re: Pioneer Anomaly
Scientists are being suprised all the time by new phenomena that has not acted the way they were expecting. Michelson and Morley, for instance, were expecting to find the earth sailing through the heavens but they could find no motion whatsoever (of earth moving "relative to space") so other scientists came up with several ad hoc explanations which make no sense at all but they decided to except them anyway.
Einstein said absolute motion is irrelevant (which it is not - the absolute motion of a body is "zero" - relative to space - This makes a big difference when it comes to the emission of light) & Lorentz and Fitzgerald said the ruler gets shorter, just enough to cancel out any detectable motion of the earth's motion (how convenient!).
They also thought that ether was some sort of gas that the earth moved through (causing an ether wind) - which it is not. Ether is like inertia and gravity - it is there but it cannot be detected physically, only its effects can be detected.
The Pioneer anomaly is just another little phenomenon that suprised the scientists. It also gave them an excellent opportunity to check the true value of C (not the speed of light) but the value Einstein decided to use to show the tremendous amount of energy in a small amount of mass.
It is not a new physics - it is just adjusting the value of C empirically to show its true value. Changing its value could change the spacecraft's inertial mass and therefore its gravitational attraction. This new value of C may allow them to predict more accurate trajectories of future spacecraft jouneys into deep space, if it does not they will have to look for another cause of the anomaly. The one they came up with so far reminds me a little of Fitzgerald's "ruler".
The laws of nature are full of suprises - they challenge the imagination of its investigators to unlock its secrets. So far the "Mind" of mankind has risen to the challenge but there is still a long way to go.
Don Hamilton
http://novan.com/mind.htm
Show me the unicorns!
Don, I suggest you read Renaisauce's blog entry about the Galileo Complex, which I think applies to your "Mind of Man."
You are the one who is claiming that well-established theories are wrong. When that happens, you need extraordinary evidence to support your extraordinary claims.
In this case, in order to attribute the Pioneer anomaly to new physics, you need to rule out plausible conventional explanations first. This one is hardly grasping at straws. The anomalies observed for Pioneer have no counterpart in the orbits of any natural body in the Solar System, so it is reasonable to suspect that we are seeing an effect that is due to the properties of Pioneer rather than the properties of nature.
You and I agree that we hear hoofbeats, but you are the one who is jumping to the conclusion that they are caused by unicorns. I think horses are still the most likely explanation. Zebras are a slight possibility.
Since I promised myself not to get into extended arguments with you, this is all I have to say; "Show me the unicorns!"
I'll let others pick up the argument from here.
Fred Bortz -- Science and technology books for young readers (www.fredbortz.com) and Science book reviews (www.scienceshelf.com)
Re: Pioneer Anomaly
Sounds like they are grasping at straws in trying to come up with an explanation for the anomaly. If just changing the value of C corrects the anomaly, just maybe the value of C was wrong under certain conditions out in deep space where no one has journeyed before. If the new value can predict deep space journeys better then the old value of C then I would say - its time for a change - no matter what you think Fred.
Don H.
http://novan.com/
Sorry to burst your bubble about Pioneer
There seems to be a mundane explanation, according to a just published article in New Scientist.
Excerpt:
Besides, the scientists who have measured the Pioneer anomaly are smart enough to account for relativistic effects, such as changes in mass and the curvature of spacetime.
They don't need your "Mind of Man" suggestion that the speed of light (or its square) is not well measured. In fact, the value of c is known to a much greater precision (I'm guessing one part in 1012 or so.) than the anomaly, measured by the tools of better men and women than you or I.
Fred Bortz -- Science and technology books for young readers (www.fredbortz.com) and Science book reviews (www.scienceshelf.com)
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