Old men chasing young women: A good thing
It turns out that older men chasing younger women contributes to human longevity and the survival of the species, according to new findings by researchers at Stanford and the University of California-Santa Barbara.
Evolutionary theory says that individuals should die of old age when their reproductive lives are complete, generally by age 55 in humans, according to demographer Cedric Puleston, a doctoral candidate in biological sciences at Stanford. But the fatherhood of a small number of older men is enough to postpone the date with death because natural selection fights life-shortening mutations until the species is finished reproducing.
"Rod Stewart and David Letterman having babies in their 50s and 60s provide no benefit for their personal survival, but the pattern [of reproducing at a later age] has an effect on the population as a whole," Puleston said. "It's advantageous to the species if these people stick around. By increasing the survival of men you have a spillover effect on women because men pass their genes to children of both sexes."
"Why Men Matter: Mating Patterns Drive Evolution of Human Lifespan," was published Aug. 29 in the online journal Public Library of Science ONE. Shripad Tuljapurkar, the Morrison Professor of Population Studies at Stanford; Puleston; and Michael Gurven, an assistant professor of anthropology at UCSB, co-authored the study in an effort to understand why humans don't die when female reproduction ends.
Human ability to scale the so-called "wall of death"—surviving beyond the reproductive years—has been a center of scientific controversy for more than 50 years, Puleston said. "The central question is: Why should a species that stops reproducing by some age stick around afterward?" he said. "Evolutionary theory predicts that, over time, harmful mutations that decrease survival will arise in the population and will remain invisible to natural selection after reproduction ends." However, in hunter-gatherer societies, which likely represent early human demographic conditions and mating patterns, one-third of people live beyond 55 years, past the reproductive lifespan for women. Furthermore, life expectancy in today's industrialized countries is 75 to 85 years, with mortality increasing gradually, not abruptly, following female menopause.
Grandmother hypothesis
In 1966, William Hamilton, a British evolutionary biologist, worked out the mathematics describing the "wall of death." Since then, the most popular explanation for why humans don't die by age 55 has been termed the "grandmother hypothesis," which suggests that women enhance the survival of their children and grandchildren by living long enough to care for them and "increasing the success of their genes," Puleston said. However, Hamilton's work has been difficult to express as a mathematical and genetic argument explaining why people live into old age.
Unlike previous research on human reproduction, this study—for the first time—includes data on males, a tweak that allowed the researchers to begin answering the "wall of death" question by matching it to human mortality patterns. According to Puleston, earlier studies looked only at women, because scientists can reproduce good datasets for humans entirely based on information related to female fertility and survival rates.
"Men's fertility is contingent on women's fertility—you have to figure out how they match up. We care about reproduction because that is a currency by which force of selection is counted. If we have not accounted for the entire pattern of reproduction, we may be missing something that's important to evolution."
Men and longevity
In the paper, the researchers analyzed "a general two-sex model to show that selection favors survival for as long as men reproduce." The scientists presented a "range of data showing that males much older than 50 years have substantial realized fertility through matings with younger females, a pattern that was likely typical among early humans." As a result, Puleston said, older male fertility helps to select against damaging cell mutations in humans who have passed the age of female menopause, consequently eliminating the "wall of death."
"Our analysis shows that old-age male fertility allows evolution to breach Hamilton's wall of death and predicts a gradual rise in mortality after the age of female menopause without relying on 'grandmother' effects or economic optimality," the researchers say in the paper.
The scientists compiled longevity and fertility data from two hunter-gatherer groups, the Dobe !Kung of the Kalahari and the Ache of Paraguay, one of the most isolated populations in the world. They also looked at the forager-farmer Yanomamo of Brazil and Venezuela, and the Tsimane, an indigenous group in Bolivia. "They're living a lifestyle that our ancestors lived and their fertility patterns are probably most consistent with our ancestors," Puleston said about the four groups. The study also looked at several farming villages in Gambia and, for comparison, a group of modern Canadians.
In the less developed, traditional societies, males were as much as 5-to-15 years older than their female partners. In the United States and Europe, the age spread was about two years. "It's a universal pattern that in typical marriages men are older than women," Puleston said. "The age gaps vary by culture, but in every group we looked at men start [being reproductive] later. At the end of reproduction, male fertility rates taper off gradually, as opposed to the fairly sharp decline in female fertility by menopause." Despite small differences based on marriage traditions, all women and most men in the six groups stopped having children by their 50s, the researchers found. But some men, particularly high-status males, continued to reproduce into their 70s. The paper noted that the age gap is most pronounced in societies that favor polygyny, where a man takes several wives, and in gerontocracies, where older men monopolize access to reproductive women. The authors also cite genetic and anthropological evidence that early humans were probably polygynous as well.
Older male fertility also exists in societies supporting serial monogamy, because men are more likely to remarry than women. "For these reasons, we argue that realized male fertility was substantial at ages well past female menopause for much of human history and the result is reflected in the mortality patterns of modern populations," the authors say. "We conclude that deleterious mutations acting after the age of female menopause are selected against … solely as a result of the matings between older males and younger females."
According to Puleston, the "grandmother hypothesis" may be true, but the real pattern of male fertility extends beyond this explanation. "The key question is: Does the population have a greater growth rate if men are reproducing at a later age? The answer is 'yes.' The age of last reproduction gets pushed into the 60s and 70s if you add men to the analysis. Hamilton's approach was right, but in a species where males and females have different reproductive patterns, you need a two-sex model. You can't correctly estimate the force of selection if you leave men out of the picture. As a man myself, it's gratifying to know that men do matter."
Grants from the U.S. National Institute on Aging supported this study.
Evolutionary theory says that individuals should die of old age when their reproductive lives are complete, generally by age 55 in humans, according to demographer Cedric Puleston, a doctoral candidate in biological sciences at Stanford. But the fatherhood of a small number of older men is enough to postpone the date with death because natural selection fights life-shortening mutations until the species is finished reproducing.
"Rod Stewart and David Letterman having babies in their 50s and 60s provide no benefit for their personal survival, but the pattern [of reproducing at a later age] has an effect on the population as a whole," Puleston said. "It's advantageous to the species if these people stick around. By increasing the survival of men you have a spillover effect on women because men pass their genes to children of both sexes."
"Why Men Matter: Mating Patterns Drive Evolution of Human Lifespan," was published Aug. 29 in the online journal Public Library of Science ONE. Shripad Tuljapurkar, the Morrison Professor of Population Studies at Stanford; Puleston; and Michael Gurven, an assistant professor of anthropology at UCSB, co-authored the study in an effort to understand why humans don't die when female reproduction ends.
Human ability to scale the so-called "wall of death"—surviving beyond the reproductive years—has been a center of scientific controversy for more than 50 years, Puleston said. "The central question is: Why should a species that stops reproducing by some age stick around afterward?" he said. "Evolutionary theory predicts that, over time, harmful mutations that decrease survival will arise in the population and will remain invisible to natural selection after reproduction ends." However, in hunter-gatherer societies, which likely represent early human demographic conditions and mating patterns, one-third of people live beyond 55 years, past the reproductive lifespan for women. Furthermore, life expectancy in today's industrialized countries is 75 to 85 years, with mortality increasing gradually, not abruptly, following female menopause.
Grandmother hypothesis
In 1966, William Hamilton, a British evolutionary biologist, worked out the mathematics describing the "wall of death." Since then, the most popular explanation for why humans don't die by age 55 has been termed the "grandmother hypothesis," which suggests that women enhance the survival of their children and grandchildren by living long enough to care for them and "increasing the success of their genes," Puleston said. However, Hamilton's work has been difficult to express as a mathematical and genetic argument explaining why people live into old age.
Unlike previous research on human reproduction, this study—for the first time—includes data on males, a tweak that allowed the researchers to begin answering the "wall of death" question by matching it to human mortality patterns. According to Puleston, earlier studies looked only at women, because scientists can reproduce good datasets for humans entirely based on information related to female fertility and survival rates.
"Men's fertility is contingent on women's fertility—you have to figure out how they match up. We care about reproduction because that is a currency by which force of selection is counted. If we have not accounted for the entire pattern of reproduction, we may be missing something that's important to evolution."
Men and longevity
In the paper, the researchers analyzed "a general two-sex model to show that selection favors survival for as long as men reproduce." The scientists presented a "range of data showing that males much older than 50 years have substantial realized fertility through matings with younger females, a pattern that was likely typical among early humans." As a result, Puleston said, older male fertility helps to select against damaging cell mutations in humans who have passed the age of female menopause, consequently eliminating the "wall of death."
"Our analysis shows that old-age male fertility allows evolution to breach Hamilton's wall of death and predicts a gradual rise in mortality after the age of female menopause without relying on 'grandmother' effects or economic optimality," the researchers say in the paper.
The scientists compiled longevity and fertility data from two hunter-gatherer groups, the Dobe !Kung of the Kalahari and the Ache of Paraguay, one of the most isolated populations in the world. They also looked at the forager-farmer Yanomamo of Brazil and Venezuela, and the Tsimane, an indigenous group in Bolivia. "They're living a lifestyle that our ancestors lived and their fertility patterns are probably most consistent with our ancestors," Puleston said about the four groups. The study also looked at several farming villages in Gambia and, for comparison, a group of modern Canadians.
In the less developed, traditional societies, males were as much as 5-to-15 years older than their female partners. In the United States and Europe, the age spread was about two years. "It's a universal pattern that in typical marriages men are older than women," Puleston said. "The age gaps vary by culture, but in every group we looked at men start [being reproductive] later. At the end of reproduction, male fertility rates taper off gradually, as opposed to the fairly sharp decline in female fertility by menopause." Despite small differences based on marriage traditions, all women and most men in the six groups stopped having children by their 50s, the researchers found. But some men, particularly high-status males, continued to reproduce into their 70s. The paper noted that the age gap is most pronounced in societies that favor polygyny, where a man takes several wives, and in gerontocracies, where older men monopolize access to reproductive women. The authors also cite genetic and anthropological evidence that early humans were probably polygynous as well.
Older male fertility also exists in societies supporting serial monogamy, because men are more likely to remarry than women. "For these reasons, we argue that realized male fertility was substantial at ages well past female menopause for much of human history and the result is reflected in the mortality patterns of modern populations," the authors say. "We conclude that deleterious mutations acting after the age of female menopause are selected against … solely as a result of the matings between older males and younger females."
According to Puleston, the "grandmother hypothesis" may be true, but the real pattern of male fertility extends beyond this explanation. "The key question is: Does the population have a greater growth rate if men are reproducing at a later age? The answer is 'yes.' The age of last reproduction gets pushed into the 60s and 70s if you add men to the analysis. Hamilton's approach was right, but in a species where males and females have different reproductive patterns, you need a two-sex model. You can't correctly estimate the force of selection if you leave men out of the picture. As a man myself, it's gratifying to know that men do matter."
Grants from the U.S. National Institute on Aging supported this study.
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want to marry with older man
I fall in love with older man, he is 64 yo and still look very energetic and healty, iam 45 yo,... Pls help and give any comment, .. Thanks
What?!
Please this is just the kind of fodder men need to hear. I personally don't appreciate being hit on by old men. Thank you science for promoting more double standard garbage. The only diff between men and women is that our ovaries have an expatriation date. This kind of trash just further validates an old guy for "trading in" his aging life partner for a younger newer model. Sure it's okay to be in a relationship with an older man if you are so inclined but I just know lights would go off in so many male heads upon hearing this "scientifically confirmed garbage" like "I knew it all along". What about women? Crap!
Kellie
I don't know what all the animosity is for, but don't treat me like I am stupid. Of COURSE no one lives forever! I was just saying how there is a better chance the kids WILL outlive their parents if the age difference is too great. People aren't immortal. These types of relationships increase the chances of what I said in my earlier comment.
Also I'm not a hater. I NEVER SAID I WAS. I don't mind these types of relationships; there are worse things, so calm the heck down with the attitude.
Kellie
Age is but a number. humans invent age and numbers like so many other things.
Animal kingdom is not bothered about ages so why should we are another species of animal although a rather advanced one but still. A living breathing beast... who needs to consider age, go for what makes you happy and society changes its mind all the time so you never know it might be the best thing ever to date a older man in years to come.
Not to sound dark, but that's the kind of thinking that helps pedophiles sleep at night. Age isn't just a number, you know. I would never let my 8 year old daughter date a 44 year old man, for obvious reasons. He'd have nothing to give her and she him. Age is also an indicator of where you are at a certain point in your life. As long as the adults are within acceptable age range, even if the age range is wide, its ok because they're still adults. If the age range gets TOO wide...well that becomes a problem.
But the relationship you speak of is totally not an issue because you are an adult dating an adult. I just wonder what an older man has to offer someone so young other than money...
kellie
I don't know what all the animosity is for, but don't treat me like I am stupid. Of COURSE no one lives forever! I was just saying how there is a better chance the kids WON'T outlive their parents if the age difference is too great. Children aren't immortal either. These types of relationships increase the chances of what I said in my earlier comment.
Also I'm not a hater. I NEVER SAID I WAS. I don't mind these types of relationships; there are worse things, so calm the heck down with the attitude.
Dumb logic of haters
So you think just because he married her in his late 30s early 40s and she is barely 20 that he wont live long enough to see his kids grow up? If he can reach 80 then his son or daughter will already be hitting 40 themselves. Most people live comfortably past their retirement age. Granted some men die before their 70s is out, so what? Most kids are done being told what to do by their early 20s, so this ignorance about not seeing your kids grow up is pretty nonsensical.
Anyone with an ounce of evolved thinking, will tell you life is not guaranteed for anyone at any point in time. Some parents die young because of accidents or disease. When its your time its just your time. So think about all those parents who outlive their kids because they died tragically and ask them whether it mattered that they married young or old. Its more important to enjoy the precious moments in life without letting backwards thinking cloud your judgement. And let people do whatever they want, live and let live I say. Young or old or whatever! Life is too short to dwell on trivialities.
Old Men Young Women
The more likely case of old men and young women is to leave a line of orphaned children typically with one parent, not two, because most old men are already married. The John Edwards case comes to mind along with the accusations hurled at Bill Clinton when he was running for office.
How much does the self indulgence of old men's ego's cost society in the long run by tolerating the practice? Britain's cache of royal bastards alone is enough of a lesson in human mating to understand the significance of old men who prey upon young women.
Just what is one man's ego worth?
Older men
There so mature, I'm dating a 53 year old guy too, we have a great relationship, sex is great. He says he never leave me or wants me to leave him for anyone younger.
Older men
There so mature, I'm dating a 53 year old guy too, we have a great relationship, sex is great. He says he never leave me or wants me to leave him for anyone younger.
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People! Older men having children still at that age won't live long to see them age completely. The children will have one dead parent by the time they are in their 20s or so...
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older men
I always refused at age of 17 to date anyone who was over 38. Then when i was 18 i met a 43 year old who was wonderful. I don't like the age gap but we are so great together it would be stupid to let it get in the way and then regret it later.
So i am dating some 25 years older than me. It is fine. A bit wierd that he has a ex wife and i hate broken families but i cant change that.
People should not judge people who date older men. as long as the men are not exploiting the women i dont see what is wrong. Some older guys get women pregnant to try and make them stay with them and become controlling as what happened to my friend. this made me sceptical about older men. But my bf is great.
Years ago it was normal to be married by 17 ish and to older men. Just because society has suddenly changed its mind and made it taboo does not mean its wrong.
it is wierd. I think if some lovely film actor id watched my whole life offered to get to know me id take it. not cos of the money but you like them and followed their lives and why not see if it works out, so to me it was a bit hypocritcal for me to suddenly think i would not date someone older when i would easily date Bruce Willis.
Age is but a number. humans invent age and numbers like so many other things.
Animal kingdom is not bothered about ages so why should we are another species of animal although a rather advanced one but still. A living breathing beast... who needs to consider age, go for what makes you happy and society changes its mind all the time so you never know it might be the best thing ever to date a older man in years to come.
Agree
I totally agree with you Ms. & would also like to share some of my experiences if you dont mind. Many Thanks.
OMG
People, thats just fuck-nasty to marry a 50 year old when your 20. Whats wrong with you??? Lalala I'm in love - yeah - with his dick. You guys sicken me
16 y/o age difference
He won't necessarily "get older faster" if you keep him "happy". There have been many studies on this. Alternatively, what would you do if your younger hubby had a severe accident or medical issues develop that made him seem to be someone 85 y/o?? Would you suck it up "For better or for worse... in sickness as in health"?????
Great comment
Now, I don't feel so bad hitting on the young, cute checkout girl at the local Albertson's supermarket
Re: What is love?
Unfortunately I'm one of them. Been married 34 years, 2 beautiful children, spouse and I get along well, we're great parents, get great respect from our children. But I will tell you, it's agony not being "in love".
I'm 20 y/o and my husband is 36 y/o.
Just a little advise. I'm 20 y/o and my husband is 36 y/o. I wouldn't regret marring him, I DO regret getting married so young. It's been great, but if I had another chance to thing about it, I would probably be with someone younger, at least 25 or so. Age doesn't matter at the beginning, but eventually, it DOES matter, I'm telling you this from experience. So, if You are wondering what to do, I'd suggest You to think about it really good, because he will get older faster, and you'll be young and beautiful. Be with someone closer to Your age.
Kellie
People! Older men having children still at that age won't live long to see them age completely. The children will have one dead parent by the time they are in their 20s or so...
Wowsers
I also feel that this article makes alot of sense. There seems to be an instinctual feeling in men to look at younger women. For instance I always dated girls my age until I hit my 30s, then I suddenly saw most women my age were marrying or married with kids already. And still enjoying the attention of women my age and younger I had very little but to look at the younger crowds.
I look 25 but am almost mid 30s. Currently my gf is 18, and when we met she thought I was younger than her last bf who was 26. Anyways I am here as an example that young women are very compatible with older guys. Especially if the girl is wise beyond her years, which as many know, women mature faster than men anyways.
I am not yet done living my 30s fancy free, so my current gf is quite ok that I probably wont marry until hitting my early 40s, by which time she will be at a perfect age (26-28) to settle down herself.
May-December marriage is wonderful!
Hi,
I'm Rachel, a happily married woman of 23.
When I was 18 I married a man who was 54. Yep! Quite a difference, I know.
I'm pregnant now with our second child and blissfully happy.
Our marriage is strong enough to withstand social pressure. Our friends and family have come to see how stable and rather conventional our life is, and I would even suggest they are starting to see its merits!
Not sure about a scientific advantage, but it sure feels right.
Thanks for reading.
19 years apart
My boyfriend is 41and I'm 22.... Although he looks 30, there is the unfortunate fact that he is 19 years my senior. People have always told me that I need to date and older man because I'm mature in many aspects (as result of having to face too many real-life situations too young). I am so in love with him and vice versa and I'm attracted to him beyond belief. He comes from a fantastic family with good values and we're able to get along and enjoy each other in such a fun, loving way. He communicates with me and I can honestly say the only "flaw" in our relationship is his age- but if that's the only problem I see- then it's not a problem. He treats me with respect and always wants to know that I'm safe and happy. I understand that people who haven't been in a relationship with this age gap will judge- heck, I would have judged before being in one too. However, I now 100% believe and have experienced that age is just a number. I'm aware of the consequences of losing him to age as we get older, but I'd rather run this risk and remain and continue to be insanely, genuinely happy than to lose him and settle for someone that I know I can never be as crazy about. He's my rock.
Old men and younger women
Reading this blog has been most informative and amusing. It's interesting to read what people think about things that are supposedly "taboo", and more importantly, WHY they think what they do.
I don't think everything about a man's behaviour boils down to his age. To some extent it may, in terms of exposure and experience (in which case, the older guys still come out on top). But quite a bit also has to do with the man's enculturation process, and his formed outlook on life and people. The older guys who know how to treat a woman with respect probably also treated women with respect when they were younger. Life is holistic.
As regards older guys being "romantic" and attentive to younger women... most people really don't get the essence of the thing. It's really quite simple. We in most cultures are swayed into thinking that "romance" is (mostly) all about flowers and cards and chocolates and poems and mushy sentimental things. We see it all around us in books and TV and the movies. A part of it is. But the ESSENCE of romance is the ability to take who/what you love SERIOUSLY. Seriousness and commitment are the essence of romance. If you see it that way, it's easy to see why an older man, aware of time and circumstance and mortality, would invest his relationship with a lot more commitment and a lot less caprice.
The French "formula" for relationships probably has a good biological and emotional basis, for reasons that are too lengthy to go into here. It says that for a man the "ideal" woman should preferably be half his age + 7 years. Think about it.
Good luck to all of you. For those who are serious and committed enough, age IS just a number. For the rest, age is just one of numerous excuses to not exert themselves.
Magicman.
:) so interested in.
If the man over 60, he cant do anything =))
that was me
I was always creeped out by older men too, until i started talking to one...my rule was not to date anyone 5 years older than me....he is 13 years older....I'm 34 now, looks 25. he is 47. but this dude is unlike any other dude i have dated. he is mature mentally and emotionally...which compliments the sex. i've tried younger guys like 10 years younger and now i don't believe the hype. They did not know how to make me feel like a woman....Yay for longevity, but i guess i need the art of foreplay and most younger men are lacking in this area. also when i talk to him, i dont see an age....
why!!
I read the comment of the 51 year old man, and i felt instantly attacted!!
i know i sound silly, but im just being honest here.
why cant all older guys be like that?? the older guys i meet still want to party like they are 21 and dont want a relationship.
i was planning on meeting a younger guy (24)just to see maybe it could work...geuss what.... it DIDNT!!!!
we have not even met yet and it all fell appart and ofcourse its all my fault....i dont know any more....
should i give up???
I'm in this situation
I'm a 51 year-old male who dates a 25 year-old female. We are extremely happy together, and I feel the relationship will continue long term. I am youthful looking and I stay in good physical shape. I've been told I look like I'm 40, so I suppose that helps my situation, although if you asked my girlfriend I think she would say it doesn't matter. It takes 2 special people to make something like this work, and it probably requires more open-mindedness on the part of the younger female than by the older male. I did not actively seek out dating a younger woman - in fact, I was traditionally against the idea. It does work in certain situations, though, as I've come to find out. If the female is mature beyond her years, and seeks companionship with an older man because she finds men her age to be too immature for her, the relationship works. I do worry, though, about how things will be when I'm 15 years older, and she is just pushing 40. I don't want her to feel obligated to stay with me or take care of me if I inevitably start falling apart, due to age, when she has so much life left to live. I suppose in my situation that the relationship is wonderful enough that, even if it's not permanent, any amount of years I can have with her is worth the sacrifice of losing her in the end, to me....just my 2 cents.
My thoughts
I have only one issue with younger women! I have not found the one who is looking for a LTR/children. Balance is important in a relationship if there balance age does not matter! My example ot a + older and younger relationship is the one of Charlie Chaplin and his last wife(real balance of mind and sprit and not of age).
mcorp727@yahoo.com
im 27 dating 53 y/o
I have to admit its by far the best relationship I've had in all aspects! I grew up non-judgemental and I never think of age....its just a number! I'm the one who persued him. All that matters is that we are BOTH happy. This should be true in all relationships.
dont judge me just advice me & i need to know-my name is Candace
hey every one!!!
ok so i didnt do anything with the 50y/o guy.
thank goodness!!!!
he (like i said) made me laugh,and had a killer personality, but then he went abit crazy senior citizen on me, so i did turn and i did run...lol.
thank you for every one who replied to me!!!!
my email is candacekreinz@yahoo.co.uk
i am not from the uk, but i did work there, hens the uk addy!!!
What would this lead to?
This might lead to problems in the long run, where you will need lawyers to be contacted to come into terms with different issues,
As per my belief you will need to contact best attorneys to get a solution !!
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Emotional Reality
We are actually all in this together. We survive or not together the polarization of men and women and politicizing our relationships is not the solution.
To Hola - try one_clr_voice@ymail.com or one_clr_voice@yahoo.com
yes without any exception
yes without any exception whatsoever, you nailed. Every male on the planet, since time eternal has been a selfish pig. You are the voice of generation
And that's a bad thing?
Stop and take a deep breath and think rationally.
Now, that's a bad thing because why?
They want both. If they can
They want both. If they can have both the caring wife that will pick up after them, cook for them, and make a nice home while also having a young chick to bang they will. Guys are selfish pigs.
Tainted by same view as other 'male dominant' theories.
Eh, who say it's 'good for Rod Stewart' or any of these other alpha males to stay around passing on their genes? That may be a matter of debate.
However, to me this theory is just as full of holes as some of the theories, running around a few years ago, that 'it was natural that men rule' mainly because, men have held most ruler positions [there was even a book written about this theory]. With the message that it's a naturalized situation for men to rule. These theories are inescapably seen through the eyes of what is still in some respects a society that favors male privilege, in particular white male privilege [these men they mention above happen to be white -- of course our society favors passing on their genes -- I don't see poor African American males being similarly favored] How exactly is the health of the whole population helped by a small number of old males to reproduce? Autism is connected to not only maternal but paternal age, and some have pointed out the rampant rise in Autism to increasingly older males still having children. Let all older men have children, and this may be the result.
As far as living longer, it comes down to just plain old advancements in health, science and medicine that allow us to all live longer.
i just dont get it
i just dont get it and belive me i don't criticize anybody but u c im 27 dating a 39 yr old that is diffrent den me but i love him to death and he says he loves me, but when we argue he tells me that if we break up he will date a teen aslong as shes over 18...... so i dontknow wt to do.. i do everything for him. do you guys think i should just leave him....maybe he aint really in love.... we dont even have sex normally......or i guess he just wants someone younger,,, i need advise please anyone....... sory for my words lol im used to texting abreviating....
older men
all i need to say is why doolder men wana date a teen when u have a women at home that loves you and takes care of you and your things?
22x56
if you truthfully honest and beautiful responnse to this 56 year old man with the looks of 40 i promise u you hit the jack pot my email is lentzos@sbcglobal.net
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AGE DOES MATTER
From experience my dad is 25 years older than my mom and it has not been easy. At the beginning it was pretty good, but as my dad got older it was just a hassle for my mom. My mom is still filled with energy while my dad is just tired of doing many of the things he used to do before. He looks great for his age, but being an old husband and dad is not good for the entire family. I'm 20 and I would have wished for my parents to have been the same age!! I will not make the same mistake as my mom. SOME men are pigs GOD! When will someone understand that age does matter. Why do men date older women you ask? Well, it's easy they're insecure and want to fill their egos. duh! And for those who say : "Oh, I'm very happy with my partner!!" just wait 10 more years like my mom and things will change trust me! Live your life with someone of your same age!! plzzz!!!
hi
hola
i am a Cameroonian by birth and i am searching for a serious partner to spend the rest of my life with.please contact me for more.i have no contact yet,mail me.-
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hi
hola
i am a Cameroonian by birth and i am searching for a serious partner to spend the rest of my life with.please contact me for more.i have no contact yet,mail me my email is princeroland90@yahoo.com
hello im a canadian
i like who i like. its never about age and it never has been. Im 31 years old and i dont know if i am young or old. I am not sure which category i fit into. I like everyone and it just doesnt matter about the age. I think its odd people respond on age based attributes versus love or what they are looking for strategies. I am romantic, intellectual, athletic and super humourous. A girl will laught hysterically around me. I wonder why people speak so much about age. Funny.
Not true
I am very happily in love with an older man. He has more respect for me than any of my ex boyfriends. Not to mention he works out 5 times a week. So he is probably in better shape than you, by the way he is 65.
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you are so stupid because if
you are so stupid because if you are young you should not be dating a 44yr old
DONT JUDGE ME JUST ADVISE ME PLS.
BEING WITH AN OLDER GUY IS NOT THE PROBLEM....THE PROBLEM IS HE IS MARRIED! TURN AROUND AND RUN AND DONT LOOK BACK! FIND SOMEONE SINGLE
LIKE ME...LOL
u need to no
maybe u dont get the right one i'll phone u if i had u
im a 18 college freshman.
I've always been disgusted with men over 30!!!! I don't get this article. Older men creep me out. Maybe that's also because I'm not mature.
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