It seems that the political systems of all major countries nowadays have been delibarately skewed so as not to produce true men and women. The electorate have to choose between the mediocre and the inadequate.
There are always exceptions, of course. Find a head of state that we do not see often on TV, and you may find a person who is truly helpful for his country, and actively toils for the rest of the world. Alas, his hands must be tied, for the overwhelming majority of his colleagues speak a totally different language.
This situation has reached critical proportions, and a remedy is earnestly needed. Perhaps there should be a worlwide contest between the scientists of the world to invent a fail-safe electoral system that would compel the best in each nation to take the helm.
Another approach would be to identify these little islands of calm, in our world of turmoil, and study their system to learn how did they find their man, and managed to elect him.
P.S.: Please publicize these findings.
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What findings?
August 13, 2007 by Mary Mactavish (not verified), 2 years 15 weeks ago
Comment: 24513
I see no "findings" there.
Mary
Compel the best to lead?
August 13, 2007 by belg4mit, 2 years 15 weeks ago
Comment: 24512
Compel the best to lead? Invent new electoral systems? Be more involved? Not gods?
It would seem that you yourself have some conflicting perceptions of science and scientists. Maintaining that they are mere humans on the one hand, but then that they can solve all of our problems on the other. Scientists are trained in individual domains, and generally cannot/should not/will not speak to others for which they are ill-informed.
In closing, let me simply say that there is indeed a domain of science relevant to your cherished topic, but it is not really what people come here to read about: political science. Finally, in closing, you may want to do a little more research into policy making before randomly writing. I recommend the syllabus at http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Urban-Studies-and-Planning/11-373Fall-2004/Cou...
and also suggest you reconsider your choice of forum.
Scientists and politics
August 12, 2007 by Fred Bortz, 2 years 15 weeks ago
Comment: 24508
Manoamano,
I'm not calling for science in isolation. Scientists are quite active in political blogs, including a favorite of mine because it explicitly combines science, politics, and culture.
Furthermore, many of my own posts here have a strong political point of view. So I'm not objecting to your having equally strong views, whether or not I agree.
But after reading several of your posts and seeing virtually no connection to science, I have reached the point of not reading further when I see your name. I presume that's not what you are hoping for. As a fellow blogger, I just wanted to tell you that you are missing the mark in terms of audience.
Note that I am not disputing the need to raise the political issues you are raising. I do read about those elsewhere, as do most scientists. Most of us who read this blog are, I presume, citizens concerned about many things other than science.
My point was simply that you are probably wasting your efforts by positing here rather than on sites where people expect to find the issues you want to discuss. It's like trying to sell tuxedos in Home Depot. You may occasionally get a buyer, but you'd be better off setting up shop in a mall.
Of course, you're welcome to keep posting here. I'll just skip over your messages as I have been, and I presume others will also skip them. It's nothing personal. It's simply that I am looking for science content and views about scientific issues at this site.
I think that's true of other Science Blog readers as well.
Fred Bortz -- Science and technology books for young readers (www.fredbortz.com) and Science book reviews (www.scienceshelf.com)
Please go away!
August 12, 2007 by Anonymous (not verified), 2 years 15 weeks ago
Comment: 24507
I echo the sentiments of Mr. Bortz. Your posts have nothing to do with science and I find your argument above unmoving. It has at its core the desire to pummel scientists, and those reading about science, into your way of thinking, to berate them with your opinions about politics. You ask that we fix purely political problems... and imply that we as scientists and especially engineers (those that apply scientific knowledge to the solution of everyday problems) don't actively try to solve the root of many of the world's political problems: resource limitations and inequatable distribution of them. WRONG !! We think of that all of the time! But constantly being an irritant won't help.
I too write about politics and am a political activist, for a specific cause. But I would *never* presume that I should write rants about that subject here.
Please post your blog somewhere else.
Note to moderator; please also consider this issue.
But before I end my own post, perhaps I should directly address the idea that scientists, a form of intellectual who are not a specialists in law and history, should be the ones to design a political system. I read once, a hypothesis, that there have been three kinds of governments, based on the types that run them and their underlying assumptions: Military, Mercantile, and Intellectual.
Military types included the Roman Empire and Feudalism. Intellectual includes early communism, churches, and the Nazis. Mercantile includes the Hanseatic League and the United States. Interestingly the worst modern tyrannies, Nazi Germany, Mao's Cultural Revolution, Pol Pot's Cambodia, etc., have all been the result of an intellectual's theories. I shudder to think of what the next intellectual, especially a "scientific" intellectual, will unleash upon us. (Can you imagine the horror of one based on B.F. Skinner's work?)
Flawed as representitive democracy via the electoral process is... it has been far better than any "intelligently designed" system that we have ever seen. Why don't we relax and allow democracy to evolve, as it has been, toward ever more equatable arrangements via the messy process of compromise that is modern politics?
In the mean time, such discorse should be on a site dedicated to political thought, not this site, which should remain the proper domain for science and its everyday applications.
It is not by chance that I blog here
August 12, 2007 by manoamano, 2 years 15 weeks ago
Comment: 24506
The argument that scientists are somehow a cast detached from the problems of this world is as invalid as it is hypocritical (no personal offense intended.)
Indeed scientists have had quite an influence, good and bad, on our lifes, and they should be involved in whichever forum that tries to discuss the ills of this world.
Scientist cannot invent the Atom and Hydrogen bomb and then say: "It was the politicians that misused science!". At the same time, we all acknowledge the benefits of technology in relieving the world's suffering.
We want scientists to contribute, and not just in science. Why not drive them to turn their analytical minds to address our problems? Is it moral for them to pretend that nothing is wrong in this world or that Science is a temple that only can be entered by the PURE.
Science is not a God, and scientist should not be treated as high-priests. They have the right and obligation to participate in whichever debate is going on. Introducing such mundane subjects in the temple of science is not to be frowned upon, therefore, but encouraged. Surely they'd do as good participating in solving the woes of the electoral system as in creating face creams for starlets.
manoamano, perhaps your blogs would do better in another venue
August 12, 2007 by Fred Bortz, 2 years 15 weeks ago
Comment: 24505
Though your comments are literate and provocative, they have little if any connection to science.
As a writer, I know that the first rule for accomplishing my aims is to be published where I reach the right audience. That's why I blog here.
You might do better in a venue where people discuss the political issues that are clearly important to you. It looks like you stretched to include science in this particular post, but I think it would be more likely to attract interest and response from people who read blogs about improving the political process. Your opinions will be more effective in that part of the "blogosphere" than in this one.
When people click on your post and recognize your name, you want them to read on. That is not as likely to happen here as in a different blog site. Perhaps other readers have some specific sites to suggest.
Respectfully,
Fred Bortz -- Science and technology books for young readers (www.fredbortz.com) and Science book reviews (www.scienceshelf.com)